Earth’s Own Little Universe

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Earth's Own Little Universe

Over last weekend, we watched the movie Knowing. It’s with Nicholas Cage and a very good movie. Thumper pointed out the beautiful music used in the beginning of the movie – it’s Beethoven’s Symphony No. 7. A beautiful piece. Then the special effects in the movie were fantastic – very realistic! It was a very entertaining movie.

Knowing isn’t a movie to watch with your kids, but a very good one to watch with friends or your spouse. It is a interesting topic that stems around a series of numbers, written down five decades ago, which predict world disasters and list the exact number of casualties. Amazingly, all predictions turned out to be true for the last 50 years, and Nicholas Cage finds out that the last prediction on the list says “Everybody Else” – as in “all human beings”. Brrr… I am not going to give you too many details and spoil it for you if you haven’t seen the movie yet. I will tell you though that it deals with the Apocalypse.

After the movie, Thumper and I discussed it but he has been suffering with a cold this past week and wasn’t into any deep debate about the end of the world. So we went to sleep but I woke early wondering about something my mother in-law had said.

What do you believe?

My mother-in-law once told me that the Bible was a fantastic book of fairy tales. She is inclined to believe more in the Cosmos – she is very spiritual, but she has her very own belief which isn’t dictated by Catholicism. I think it is an interesting concept of what her choice to believe is.

Let’s assume for now that the original writings in the Bible were authentic. The question then is whether or not they were translated correctly. I will try to keep away from the idea that they were disrupted with some sort of intent.

The Apocalypse

The term “Apocalypse” is often used to describe a world disaster on the account of the “Revelation”. It is a cataclysm (such as the Flood or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah), in which the forces of good permanently triumph over the forces of evil. Apocalyptic religious writings are regarded as a distinct branch of literature. The Book of Revelation is considered by some to be one of the most controversial books of the New Testament, and was written over 1,900 years ago. It mentions many diverse interpretations of the various names and events. The book does predict an end to the world soon, yet no specific date is mentioned.

The Bible’s sacred scriptures were in procession and translated by the Catholic Church. Yet there are several religions and variations due to individual and cultural believes. Taken a step further, the question arises if the translation could have been faltered to raise influence and convince people to become followers and believers of the Church. As a method of rounding up the sheep. As a means to gain control over the people.

I was raised to attend mass regularly. Still, I don’t see how not attending mass makes me any less of a Catholic or any less of a believer. I believe in a higher power, but what gets to me is the perceived necessity to be a follower of a single human being, the so-called chosen one to represent us all before God. You know who. I don’t want to be a part of the flock at another church in another city. That sounds too much like sheeple to me. I believe that God is everywhere, not just in a church. I don’t need to be represented. I thank Him personally for all his creations and for each and every day.

Being raised a Catholic, I was questioned about my loyalties to the church in a discussion about the book and movie by Daniel Brown, The Da Vinci Code. I watched and enjoyed the movie with Tom Hanks very much and have to say the book was even better than the movie.

A topic that is most often connected to this is Astronomy.

Astronomy

Astronomy is one of the world’s oldest sciences. Astronomy and celestial mechanics is the measurement of the positions of celestial objects. Accurate knowledge of the positions of the Sun and the Moon, planets and stars, has been essential in celestial navigation and have been written and passed down throughout our history. Astronomy is used to predict seasonal changes, when to plant crops, to predict the tide, and how long each cycle lasts.

Careful measurement of the positions of the planets has led to a solid understanding of gravitational effects, and an ability to determine past and future positions of the planets with great accuracy, a field known as celestial mechanics.

Sir Issac Newton

Issac Newton

Issac Newton

This is a name we all know. Following up on how we got started on this topic, Issac Newton was a very religious man. He was born January 4, 1643 in England and is best known for his work in physics, mathematics, astronomy, natural philosophy, alchemy, and theology. He entered Trinity College in Cambridge in 1661 as a teacher. Newton was convinced he had been chosen by God to understand the Bible. He started what is called Issac Newton’s occult studies in 1642, lasted until 1727.

This is just a short story of facts on Sir Issac. We have all heard the story of how he discovered gravity, but what I want to empathize on are his studies on the laws of motion and universal gravitation. These were two of so many of Newton’s contributions. He once said,

Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done.

In 1685, King James II asked Trinity College to award degrees to students whose religious beliefs agreed with his own. When Newton and eight other teachers refused to comply, they were brought before the High Court on trumped-up charges. Luckily, it was then determined that these awards were unearned and the charges were rightfully dismissed.

Newton loved God and believed in God’s word. In his study named A Historical Account Of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture, he looked for hidden messages in the Bible but couldn’t find any. His study was based on Biblical hermeneutics; he studied the Bible in search of encrypted messages. This was called Bible Code.

Bible Code

Bible Code

Newton wrote a composition in 1704 which describes his attempts to extract scientific information from the Bible. He estimated that the world would end no earlier than 2060. He said,

This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail.

In April 1705, Queen Anne knighted Newton during a royal visit to Trinity College. It was rumored that the knighthood was motivated by political considerations connected with the Parliamentary election in May 1705, rather than any recognition of Newton’s scientific work or services as Master of the Mint.

Nostradamus

Of  course before Newton, there was Nostradamus, who was born in 1503. Nostradamus too based his published predictions on  astrology. This is the assessment of the meaning of the position of the planets and stars. Essentially, astrology interprets and reads context into something, often times something that is not in the very least related to the kosmos.

Nostradamus was criticized by his fellow astrologers of the time for incompetence, and for assuming that the comparison of future planetary configurations with those accompanying known past events could predict what would happen in the future. Today, it is suggested that most of his  predictions were based  mainly on the Bible.

Nostradamus wrote the book The Prophecies, in which he made world event predictions. This book is said to have been misunderstood or translated incorrectly (just like some think of the Bible) – it has been in publication since 1555.

One last name on the topic that you might recognize is Galileo.

Galileo

Galileo is know for his discovery of the four brightest moons of Jupiter in 1609, and documented their orbits about that planet. I’m sure you know that it was Galileo who threw over the Catholic Church’s geocentric dogma. Of course, he was prosecuted by the Church for his blasphemy. Galileo escaped serious punishment only by maintaining that his astronomy was a work of mathematics, not one of natural philosophy (physics), and therefore purely abstract.

Johann Wolfgang v. Goethe once said,

Superstition is the poetry of life. Both invent imaginary beings. Both sense the strangest connections between real, tangible elements an interplay of sympathies and antipathies.

Poetry, having put on these shackles of its free accord, strips them off readily enough, time and again. Superstition, on the other hand, can be compared to magic fetters that draw tighter and tighter the more one struggles. Even the most enlightened epoch is not proof against superstition. But when it asserts itself in dark ages man’s clouded mind at once reaches out for the impossible; it tries to exert power on the realm of spirits, across the distance, and upon the course of future events. Thus a wonderfully rich world takes shape, surrounded by an aura of fog. 

Superstition does no harm to the poet, because he can turn his half-delusions to advantage in a variety of ways.

Albert Einstein said,

The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand, rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his mind and his eyes are closed.

The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has given rise to religion. To know that what is the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive form — this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness.

A few weeks back, I wrote about Abraham Maslow and his Hierarchy of Human Needs. I’m a great admirer of Maslow. He believed there was a growing interest among all people to establish a world philosophy in physical and social science. Physical being natural science, the “body”, and religion the “spirit”. He called his thesis From Religions, Values, Peak-Experiences.

Abraham Maslow once said,

The very beginning, the intrinsic core, the essence, the universal nucleus of every known high religion has been the private, lonely, personal illumination, revelation, or ecstasy of some acutely sensitive prophet or seer. The high religions call themselves ‘revealed religions’ and each of them tends to rest its validity, its function, and its right to exist on the codification and the communication of this original mystic experience of revelation from the lonely prophet to the mass of human beings in general.

I believe in God the Creator, but I also believe in science. I also believe many of the world disasters have been caused by mankind’s hand or by natural events. God created this universe and all living things in it. I believe when one person dies, it is so another one can be born. I believe astronomy has substantial influence in the biosphere and environmentalism. I believe astrology is not only misunderstood but often abused and, simply put, made up.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you believe we are destined for an Apocalypse? Do you think the Bible could have been misinterpreted and the translation off? Do you believe in astronomy and the cosmos? What is your take on astrology?

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24 highly appreciated Comments

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Jonathan - Advanced Life Skills says:

→ on Friday, the 25th 2009f September '09, around 11 pm:

I think that the real Bible teachings are grossly misunderstood and misrepresented by the majority of those who claim to represent the God of the Bible.

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Bunny says:

→ on Friday, the 25th 2009f September '09, around 11 pm:

Bravo!!!

I agree with you 100%. I think something defiantly gets lost in translation.

Thank you so much for stopping by and welcome back. YOU have been missed.

Awesome interview by the way.

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Mike King says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 1 am:

I don’t even know where to start Bunny however, I definitely agree with Jonathan. Things are taken all the time from the Bible for a new purpose or twisted argument and those who’ve actually read and studied it from many perspectives will realize there are so many truths and teachings that they become harder and harder to debate. Science has shifted as well to see more and more truths from the bible, not contradictions like many are seeking to make a point. True unbiased science and Christianity are aligning more and more every decade. Of course that is debated but the debate arises more out of passions and from people’s ideas than it does from the actual science. There is much documented about this!

Those who truly live for God and believe in Jesus as their savior take the word of the Bible to a much more meaningful level in their lives. They begin to live it, not just read it. Its not just a book. Its not just a bunch of stories. Its not just a religion or set of beliefs. It’s much much more than that. The movie “knowing” was enjoyable to see some of these references and connections, but it was presented in a way I just didn’t connect with it really. The story was about one who didn’t believe instead of one who did, which is perhaps why I was less connected.

Anyway, you seem to always spark great thoughts on your posts with these types of topics and questions, thanks for that! I always enjoy some needed pondering time…

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Zeenat{Positive Provocations} says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 2 am:

Darling Bunny,
So finally you write about “Knowing” ;) You know i had loved the moved…expecially the end. New beginnings always stir me up. Considering i am at the juncture of one myself.
I Havent read the whole post as yet sweetie….but just know i will be reading it..adn will discuss about it at length with you….as soon as i have the time. I am surrounded with hustle bustle of packing and boxes all over the house!!oh and not to mention my little one going up and down the boxes like play toys…
Lots and lots oif love
Zeenat.

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Sunny Jamiel says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 6 am:

Bunny,

Great to discover your blog. I’ll check out the “Knowing” myself. Seems like a good watch. :)

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Dragos Roua says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 7 am:

I’m not into Apocalypse as a destructive phenomenon. It’s a hollywoodian scenario good for block busters, but it ain’t for real. What is for real is our need to evolve and grow.

A part from this Apocalypse by numbers you talk about in that movie, there was also a few years ago a “prophecy” about 2012. At that time the Earth will change its inclination, it will be in the center of the galaxy, and as if it wasn’t enough, the Mayan calendar ends abruptly. No more Mayan time in the Mayan calendar after this year. There has been tremendous speculation about this. The world will end. We will all die. And so on.

But getting it down to our perception, you can accept that something will change. Maybe it would be our perception of time. Maybe we will live only in the present. Maybe it will be better. Something will change at that time but the truth is that we don’t know what. And we make all those scenarios about how the world will be destructed. It’s such a waste of time.

Change was here all the time. 100 years ago we couldn’t imagine the printed paper will be replaced by something available instantly to billions of people and yet we live in such an age. We can exchange information and thoughts because of that, because of the Internet. Something had to die in that society so we can evolve. I think this is the subtle process, the tiny particle of Truth behind the Apocalypse. At some point, there will be change, something new will emerge and something old will have to die, or to disappear. But it was like this for centuries. We had Apocalypse 100 years back, and we have Apocalypses every week, with every new scientific breakthrough.

Perceiving Apocalypse in a destructive way favors fear. Fear is making you weak. If you’re weak, you can be manipulated. If you see the good part in any change that appears, if you know that you are here to evolve, to raise the consciousness of what some of us call God, and other call the Supreme Spirit or whatever, if you chose to grow rather than be scared, then you will literally praise for an Apocalypse to come.

I personally can’t wait to grow more. If it’s going to be called Apocalypse or not, that’s secondary.

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vered | blogger for hire says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 2 pm:

“the Bible was a fantastic book of fairy tales.” This is pretty much my belief.

I don’t think about the end of the world. I do think the world would be a better place if we all busied ourselves with doing good for other people.

In Judaism there’s a distinction between “between you and god” and “between you and other people” – both are considered equally important. I choose to focus on my relationships with other people – kindness, charity etc.

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WD Favour says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 2 pm:

I love critical thinking. I like it when another human soul emancipates himself or herself from mental slavery and questions all assumptions. The moment you can look at reality from a more developed level of mental and spiritual independence, the more aware you are.
I am a Christian Pastor who began to read the bible at the age of 5 (mysteriously) and have been preaching/teaching the bible since I was 6. I have studied several sacred religious writings, including the Quran (thanks to our moslem connection within the family. My fathers younger brother is moslem.)
This post is very critical and reflects independent thinking to an extent I admire. I do agree that the bible is one of the most abused and misused books in history.
Thanks Bunny, for being yourself, thinking for yourself, and expressing yourself.

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Ian | Quantum Learning says:

→ on Saturday, the 26th 2009f September '09, around 5 pm:

Hi Bunny.

Huge subject and not easy to comment on this post because of that. But I’ll give it a go!

I don’t believe in Apocalypse as anything real or probable. I’m not saying it’s impossible .. but I find it hard it to conceive of any event, man-made or otherwise, that could wipe out all of mankind. We are everywhere and we are very resourceful! And the idea of destruction of the planet is even more unlikely. What could possibly do that? Not us, for sure! We’re like a coating of bacteria on giant ball of rock.

Bible, God, Catholic Church! I believe the Bible are the words of people not of God. Mainly because my concept of God does not separate it into a deity. I prefer to think of God in the way I experience it, which is as a powerful and loving energy binding us all together.

I think most of the Bible (and other sacred writings) is an ancient history book – and as with all histories, has been distorted to present a particular view of the history that the authorities wanted to present as truth (ie the early catholic church). There is much wisdom and love in parts of the Bible, and much hate and fear in other parts (especially the Old Testament). This is a clear indication for me that there is not much God in the book as a whole – so discretion is advised when reading it! Sadly the church does not encourage discretion when reading the Bible .. which is one reason I do not follow any church.

How did I do? I could go on and on about this .. but prefer to dialogue rather than just write. I don’t learn much otherwise.

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Walter says:

→ on Sunday, the 27th 2009f September '09, around 1 am:

I believe that apocalypse will be the ultimate destruction man will bring upon itself. It will not come from any predictions or interpretations, it will come from the actions of man toward each other.

It is the culmination of man’s arrogance. :-)

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Stephen - Rat Race Trap says:

→ on Sunday, the 27th 2009f September '09, around 12 pm:

Hello Bunny, way to put yourself and us all out there! Here we go.

I agree with your mother in-law. I grew up in a church that studied the Bible a lot and I spent a lot of my own time studying it. There are some beautiful parts to it and there are some very ugly parts to it. It is a book written and edited by human beings who were ignorant of science. It’s not their fault, they did the best they could. it was written and corrupted over many hundreds of years thousands of years ago.

I believe the earth will end when the sun explodes some billions of years down the road. I believe it will end as we know it in the not too distant future because we are changing it and ourselves very fast.

I don’t believe in astrology or the bible. I believe in science and great human beings.

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J.D. Meier says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 1 am:

Wow – that’s an all-star cast!

I remember watching a movie on Nostradamus. Its was freaky. I remember I wanted to track his predictions against results, but somewhere along the way I lost interest. I think the issue was it would be too big of a hurdle for me to figure out how to interpret the original writings myself and if I was going to do it, I wanted to start there.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 9 am:

Hi Mike,

I think to each his own. Yes. The teachings defiantly have been changed over time to
become more current with the times.This I think, has made the Bible more unbelievable.
Science and religion go hand in hand.
I really don’t believe that a true apocalypse is going to happen at least not in our lives but I have to wonder, if the apocalypse that is mentioned is as severe as what we think. Even the definition in the dictionary has changed over the years.
Knowing was entertaining not based on real life.My favorite character was Caleb, the little boy.

Thank you so much for sharing, I always appreciate your participation when I write these articles.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 9 am:

Hi Dragos,

I agree with the apocalypse is a fiasco to create fear in people.When people
are scared they can be easily influenced.It just isn’t Hollywood doing it, they are
making a bundle of money off of it.

As far as the Mayan Calendar. I think it is met to have people reconnect. This could mean all of us more involved with the environment and saving the world which we have already started.

It is also said the the center of the Milky Way and the Sun will be aligned for the first time in many centuries and the energy which comes from the Milky Way to Earth will be interrupted.

Thank you so much for your insightful comment. It is always a pleasure to hear from you.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 9 am:

Hi Zenatt,

I seemed to lost the order of the comments. lol

I liked the ending very much also. New beginning are always wonderful. I hope things are going well with your settling in to your new home.

keep me posted.
Thank you for commenting.
xox

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 9 am:

Hi Sunny,

Welcome to my blog. It is nice to have you here.
Please do watch the movie and come back and let me know your thoughts about it.

Thanks for commenting.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 10 am:

Hi Vered,

Much of the Bible is based on what we believe is to be interrupted correctly from scriptures. I think the are have symbolical meaning of that time that has a message.

I admire your faith and what you do. Anyone who reads your blog understands that you have a deep compassion for life and people.

Thank you for share.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 10 am:

Hello W.D.~

Thank you for your kind words.
Most appreciated.

I totally agree with you about the bible being misunderstood that is one of the reasons I wrote this post.

Thank you for sharing.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 10 am:

Hi Ian,

You have a powerful way with words!

I have often wondered how authentic the translation is after all when you
consider it was translated by the Catholic church now my question that will
never be answered – lol, is considering dialect varies form region to region
in countries and over time how certain are we that it is correctly interpreted.

For example German is spoken in Austria as well as Germany but it differs.

English:

In America when I say I am pissed, I am mad.
In England if someone says their pissed, their drunk.

The Bible was based more the life of Jesus then God.

I think many people have made the same choices for the same reasons you have about church and beliefs.

Thank you for stopping in and sharing. Always great to hear your opinion on topics.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 10 am:

Hi Walter,

Well you know. it is not God that makes war it is humans. The possibility of a disaster happening as a result mankind is a creditable concern.

Thank you for stopping by and sharing.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 11 am:

Hi Steve,

I think it is important to teach kids about the Bible and other religions but allow them to make their own minds up on what they believe.

I think most of us are on the same page about subject of the Bible being misunderstood and misused.

As far as astrology, it is a science that has also been misunderstood and misused. It is interesting as long as you don’t think it is going to give you the ability to figure out the lottery numbers or predictions in any ways.

Thank you for stopping in and sharing. As a pleasure to hear your opinion.

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Bunny says:

→ on Monday, the 28th 2009f September '09, around 11 am:

Hi J.D. ~

I remember reading parts of the book, Nostradamus wrote when I was in college. One of the guys I knew was reading it and I remember thinking it was weird but interesting.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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brigid says:

→ on Wednesday, the 30th 2009f September '09, around 8 pm:

This is a huge topic and one that is close to my heart .
I will touch on the confusing and often studied subject of all the religious teachings. They are all stories, all that I know of have been translated from their original ancient languages, but they are often eerily similar. I have no answer there.
The end of earth ‘as we know it’, hhmm. Its always changing, but maybe it is a major shift in consciousness that is the most needed.
I will tell you what I think in 2 years, if it turns out to be like Y2K
I will be soo disappointed!

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Steven Handel says:

→ on Monday, the 16th 2009f November '09, around 12 pm:

It seems to me that all major religions hold some elements of symbolic truth. However, when people start accepting the Bible as a replacement for science, then they are missing the big message, and denying facts of reality. I also have trouble with people who commit acts of violence or terror in the name of their God. Whatever happened to the golden rule and turning the other cheek?

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